This podcast reminded me of the kind of 2 am, dorm room, meaning-of-life conversations I had in college. Except that one of the participants is the inventor of interpersonal neurobiology, Dan Siegel, UCLA psychiatrist. It starts with the question of the difference between the brain and the mind and goes from there. I especially love when Siegel talks quantum physics and how discoveries in this field may influence our understanding of mind/brain.